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Three Day Soul Transport

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I'd figure 186,280 miles per second would be the maximum velocity achievable in mortal form.
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P.260 - §6 The universe is well supplied with spirits who utilize gravity for purposes of transit; they can go anywhere any time--instanter--but they are not persons. Certain other gravity traverser's are personal beings, such as Gravity Messengers and Transcendental Recorders, but they are not available to the super- and the local universe administrators. The worlds teem with angels and men and other highly personal beings, but they are handicapped by time and space: The limit of velocity for most nonenseraphimed beings is 186,280 miles of your world per second of your time; the midway creatures and certain others can, often do, attain double velocity--372,560 miles per second--while the seraphim and others can traverse space at triple velocity, about 558,840 miles per second. P.261 - §0 There are, however, no transit or messenger personalities who function between the instantaneous velocities of the gravity traversers and the comparatively slow speeds of the seraphim, except the Solitary Messengers.

P.261 - §1
Solitary Messengers are, therefore, generally used for dispatch and service in those situations where personality is essential to the achievement of the assignment, and where it is desired to avoid the loss of time which would be occasioned by the sending of any other readily available type of personal messenger. They are the only definitely personalized beings who can synchronize with the combined universal currents of the grand universe. Their velocity in traversing space is variable, depending on a great variety of interfering influences, but the record shows that on the journey to fulfill this mission my associate messenger proceeded at the rate of 841,621,642,000 of your miles per second of your time.

I did do some comparisons with distances and velocities and found
some interesting comparisons.
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Seraphic speed is about 3 times the speed of light. So it would take about a third of a year to travel one light year at Seraphic speed. So if we divide some of the distances we know by 3 we can estimate how long it would take to get there by Seraphic transport.
Now a light year is 5,874,526,080,000 miles. So traveling at Seraphic speeds it would take about 122 days to travel that distance.

On P.359 - §8
it says, “
From Jerusem, the headquarters of Satania, it is over two hundred thousand light-years to the physical center of the superuniverse of Orvonton, and it continued to say, “Satania is on the periphery of the local universe, and Nebadon is now well out towards the edge of Orvonton. From the outermost system of inhabited worlds to the center of the superuniverse is a trifle less than two hundred and fifty thousand light-years.”
Now a Solitary Messenger travels at the rate of 841,621,642,000 of your miles per second. So it would take about 7 seconds to travel a light year (5,874,526,080,000 miles).
So it would take about 500 hours for a Solitary Messenger to travel from the outermost system of inhabited worlds to the center of the superuniverse
(two hundred and fifty thousand light-years ). A little over 20 days.
7(sec. Per light year) x 250,000 (light years) = 1,750,000 (seconds) / 3600 (sec. Per hour) = approx. 486 hours = approx. 20 days.


I’m going to keep looking for the distance from Jerusem to Urantia.
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I found something I think is related to the question about how our souls get to the resurrection halls in three days, when I was looking for something else. So I'm back in our classroom. Untitled - Urantia Family Private Room

I speculated:
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And I suggested that perhaps our guardians are able to translate our spiritual (not physical) parts of our personality into an energy data stream that they could then transmit to Jeresum in a different energy form at a different energy speed. Once it got to The resurrections halls, I’m sure the T/A will already be waiting and it would just be a matter of reconstruction and encircuitization within the new morontial body.

Now I found this:
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P.570 - §7 5. Mortals of the primary modified order of ascension. These mortals belong to the Adjuster-fused type of evolutionary life, but they are most often representative of the final phases of human development on an evolving world. These glorified beings are exempt from passing through the portals of death; they are submitted to Son seizure; they are translated from among the living and appear immediately in the presence of the Sovereign Son on the headquarters of the local universe.

P.570 - §8 These are the mortals who fuse with their Adjusters during mortal life, and such Adjuster-fused personalities traverse space freely before being clothed with morontia forms. These fused souls go by direct Adjuster transit to the resurrection halls of the higher morontia spheres, where they receive their initial morontia investiture just as do all other mortals arriving from the evolutionary worlds.

So where as I was speculating that our mind circuits entrusted to the guardian angels might be translated to a form for Solitary messenger speed. (24 times faster than Seraphic Transport speed) It appears that our mind circuits become fused with the TA and give us instantaneous presence speed. or Adjuster speed. It makes sense if we are true spirit. The transport seems to be necessary to enshroud material endowment. if there's nothing material left, we wouldn't need Seraphic Transportation. BUT once we get our morontia enshroudment we would need seraphic transports again for movement among the morontia worlds.

P.570 - §9
This primary modified order of mortal ascension may apply to individuals in any of the planetary series from the lowest to the highest stages of the Adjuster-fusion worlds, but it more frequently functions on the older of these spheres after they have received the benefits of numerous sojourns of the divine Sons.

P.570 - §10
With the establishment of the planetary era of light and life, many go to the universe morontia worlds by the primary modified order of translation. Further along in the advanced stages of settled existence, when the majority of the mortals leaving a realm are embraced in this class, the planet is regarded as belonging to this series. Natural death becomes decreasingly frequent on these spheres long settled in light and life.

P.623 - §2 This experience of translation from the material life to the morontia state--fusion of the immortal soul with the indwelling Adjuster--increases in frequency commensurate with the evolutionary progress of the planet. At first only a few mortals in each age attain translation levels of spiritual progress, but with the onset of the successive ages of the Teacher Sons, more and more Adjuster fusions occur before the termination of the lengthening lives of these progressing mortals; and by the time of the terminal mission of the Teacher Sons, approximately one quarter of these superb mortals are exempt from natural death.

P.623 - §3
Farther along in the era of light and life the midway creatures or their associates sense the approaching status of probable soul-Adjuster union and signify this to the destiny guardians, who in turn communicate these matters to the finaliter group under whose jurisdiction this mortal may be functioning; then there is issued the summons of the Planetary Sovereign for such a mortal to resign all planetary duties, bid farewell to the world of his origin, and repair to the inner temple of the Planetary Sovereign, there to await morontia transit, the translation flash, from the material domain of evolution to the morontia level of prespirit progression.

P.623 - §6 The souls of these progressing mortals are increasingly filled with faith, hope, and assurance. The spirit permeating those gathered around the translation shrine resembles that of the joyful friends and relatives who might assemble at a graduating exercise for one of their group, or who might come together to

P.624 - §1 Mortal observers can see nothing of their translated associates subsequent to the fusion flash. Such translated souls proceed by Adjuster transit direct to the resurrection hall of the appropriate morontia-training world. These transactions concerned with the translation of living human beings to the morontia world are supervised by an archangel who was assigned to such a world on the day when it was first settled in light and life.

So that seems to solve the three day problem.
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If you believe it. But space distances and nomenclature (naming equivalencies - Urantia names to earth counterparts) still remain a big problem. I did find some more info on possible errors with in our space measurements. But I missed copying it down. So I'll have to search again.
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P.166 - §8 7. The Grand Universe. Seven superuniverses make up the present organized grand universe, consisting of approximately seven trillion inhabitable worlds plus the architectural spheres and the one billion inhabited spheres of Havona. The superuniverses are ruled and administered indirectly and reflectively from Paradise by the Seven Master Spirits. The billion worlds of Havona are directly administered by the Eternals of Days, one such Supreme Trinity Personality presiding over each of these perfect spheres.



P.167 - §1 Excluding the Paradise-Havona spheres, the plan of universe organization provides for the following units:


P.167 - §2 Superuniverses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7

P.167 - §3 Major sectors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . 70

P.167 - §4 Minor sectors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 7,000

P.167 - §5 Local universes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 700,000

P.167 - §6 Constellations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70,000,000

P.167 - §7 Local systems . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .7,000,000,000

P.167 - §8 Inhabitable planets . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7,000,000,000,000



P.167 - §9 Each of the seven superuniverses is constituted, approximately, as follows:


P.167 - §10 One system embraces, approximately . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,000 worlds

P.167 - §11 One constellation (100 systems) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... 100,000 worlds

P.167 - §12 One universe (100 constellations) . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,000,000 worlds

P.167 - §13 One minor sector (100 universes) . . . . . . . . . . 1,000,000,000 worlds

P.167 - §14 One major sector (100 minor sectors) . . . . . 100,000,000,000 worlds

P.167 - §15 One superuniverse (10 major sectors) . . . . 1,000,000,000,000 worlds


P.167 - §16 All such estimates are approximations at best, for new systems are constantly evolving while other organizations are temporarily
passing out of material existence.



Visible space is currently approx. 28.57 billion light years.in diameter.
TUB says there’s approx. 7 trillion inhabitable worlds in the Grand Universe.
If what we’re seeing today was diameter of all the Grand Universe then the Grand Universe diameter of 28571428571.4285714285714285714286 light years divided by 7,000,000,000,000 inhabitable worlds would leave approx. 0.00408163265306122448979591836734694 light years diameter thickness of space extending spherical around that particular increment of the Grand Universe diameter you were on for each inhabitable planet. If a light year is approx. 5,874,526,080,000 miles long (aprrox. 6 trillion miles long) that would make the increments roughly 23977657469.3877551020408163265306 miles thick. (approx. 24 billion miles thick.)



The problem with averages is they often don’t help much in representing reality.
The first increment being roughly 14.3 billion light years from the outer edge of the visible universe to Virgo in the center would inscribe a very small sphere of space. While the last increment at the extreme outer edge of the universe would spherically inscribe an enormous spherical shell encapsulating all of the current visible universe. So we can see the inner shell would be so small it may not include a single inhabitable world. While the last would be so large it could contain a billion inhabitable worlds.



So if we use the spherical volume in Cu. Light years of the visible universe and divided that by 7 trillion inhabitable worlds we may get a better perspective average space density needed per inhabitable world IF (and that’s a BIG IF) what we currently see is the grand Universe. (Which of coarse I doubt.) But it worth doing the math and contemplating representative models of what it might be like. When you think about star clusters and gigantic space voids you can easily see that some areas of space could contain sufficiently more inhabitable worlds while other areas would be remarkable devoid of inhabitable worlds.


So then a simple ideas like aiming attempts at giving and receiving communication to the nearest star or star cluster might cross our mind. And maybe we’re doing just exactly that with our CETI, Voyager and other programs attempting First Contact.


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